{"id":10341,"date":"2017-11-01T11:50:45","date_gmt":"2017-11-01T15:50:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/takenote\/?p=10341"},"modified":"2026-01-19T17:04:12","modified_gmt":"2026-01-19T22:04:12","slug":"mount-eerie-expressing-emptiness-in-songwriting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/mount-eerie-expressing-emptiness-in-songwriting\/","title":{"rendered":"Death is Real: Mount Eerie and the Art of Expressing &#8216;Emptiness&#8217; through Songwriting"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-how-phil-elverum-of-mount-eerie-turns-personal-grief-into-honest-emotion-driven-songwriting\">How Phil Elverum of Mount Eerie Turns Personal Grief into Honest, Emotion-Driven Songwriting<\/h2>\n\n\n<p>Is there anything more relatable for a songwriter than another songwriter writing about songwriting? The late Leonard Cohen famously sang \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/YrLk4vdY28Q?t=32s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">it goes like this the 4th, the 5th, the minor fall, the major lift<\/a>,\u201d addressing the chord structure of his beloved track \u201cHallelujah.\u201d Jeff Tweedy made reference to only seeing &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/LGF-5sjGaF4?t=33s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">black and white, and white and pink with blades of blue, that lay between the words I think on a page<\/a>\u201d while struggling with writer&#8217;s block. Carly Simon undoubtedly put a knot in her subject\u2019s throat when she sang \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/j13oJajXx0M?t=56s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">you probably think this song is about you<\/a>\u201d (as well as putting herself into meta-lyric history) in the cryptic chorus of \u201cYou\u2019re So Vain.\u201d For those who care for music, these little meta moments not only break the fourth wall, they serve as lessons from masters of the craft.<\/p>\n<p>Experimental folk artist Phil Elverum, who releases music as <a href=\"https:\/\/pwelverumandsun.bandcamp.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mount Eerie<\/a>, served up some brilliant examples of breaking the fourth wall of songwriting this year as well. The latest Mount Eerie release, <i>A Crow Looked At Me,<\/i> details the immensely emotional timeline of Elverum\u2019s wife, Genevieve, her cancer diagnosis, her passing, and how Phil and his daughter have processed loss. It\u2019s 41 minutes and 30 seconds of true heartbreak, and because of this, the few instances of meta lyrics transcend clever, and become something else entirely. On the track \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/album\/5p64XgvFREt1P6mC7Xl6XN\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Emptiness Pt. 2<\/a>,\u201d Elverum sings, \u201cconceptual emptiness was cool, back before I knew my way around these hospitals.\u201d That line has not left my consciousness ever since I heard it, because I felt as though I immediately knew what he meant.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_10343\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10343\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-10343\" src=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/elverum2-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/elverum2-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/elverum2-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/elverum2-683x1024.jpg 683w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-10343\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Credit: Jacob McKinley<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This line is in part a reference to a song the Elverum released previously called \u201cEmptiness.\u201d He\u2019s following in what we could call the \u201cGlass Onion\u201d tradition, where the Beatles begin with the lyric that requires you to know a little bit about the band\u2019s history, when John Lennon sings, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/2tSIZLuCKUI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">I told you about \u2018Strawberry Fields.\u2019<\/a>\u201d Elverum\u2019s sequel is decidedly more serious. He is referencing that he had tried to channel this level of overwhelming loneliness previously, and even released it, but suggests that he wasn\u2019t truly feeling that \u201cEmptiness\u201d at that point in time. He is calling himself out for just thinking the idea of feeling empty seemed intriguing, and that penning a lyric from that perspective would help him come across as a deeper songwriter.<\/p>\n<p>As a songwriter, I\u2019ve totally done this! Maybe I\u2019m just trying to making myself feel better for admitting this, but I feel like this idea of conceptual emotions hits close to home for many songwriters. Even as I\u2019m writing this I\u2019m listening to Bright Eyes wondering, \u201cwhy can\u2019t I be as brooding as Conor Oberst?!\u201d If you\u2019re moved by an artist, and how successful they are at emoting through song, it makes sense to try to recreate that feeling. Right? Maybe I\u2019m just trying to make myself feel better again?<\/p>\n<p>On \u201cReal Death,\u201d another track from <i>A Crow Looked At Me<\/i>, Elverum pronounces that \u201cdeath is real, someone\u2019s there and then they\u2019re not, and it\u2019s not worth singing about, it\u2019s not worth turning into art.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zGESP0iePmQ<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a line that seemingly contradicts itself, because he did in fact turn it into art, and in turn he captured a stage of grieving that\u2019s often overlooked, a helpless feeling that everything is futile, when he sings \u201call poetry is dumb.\u201d Nick Cave went through something similar while in the midst of recording his 2016 album <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Hdl5sox2G6g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Skeleton Tree<\/i><\/a>, and his son died unexpectedly. He changed lyrics to make them less narrative, because he claimed he lost faith in that style of storytelling.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, I believe Elverum decided that it was worth turning his experience into art because this time, he really felt this emptiness that he had only thought he had felt before.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_10348\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10348\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-10348\" src=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/elverum4-300x214.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"214\" srcset=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/elverum4-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/elverum4-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/elverum4.jpg 970w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-10348\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Phil Elverum is pictured here in happier times, hoisting up his daughter as his wife, Genevi\u00e8ve Castr\u00e9e, looks on. Castr\u00e9e died of pancreatic cancer. To learn more about the fight against pancreatic cancer, visit <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lustgarten.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">www.lustgarten.org<\/a>.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>He also seems to have discovered something about the human condition, learning that it\u2019s a double-edged sword, when he ends with the line, \u201cI don\u2019t want to learn anything from this\/I love you.\u201d That emptiness was real, and it was tragic. Loss is lonely, and Elverum may realize that in his function as a songwriter and a human being that he could at least create a song cycle to comfort anyone who has gone through this, and let them know they aren\u2019t alone. Losing his wife led him to do a lot of soul searching, and part of that journey involved analyzing his intentions as an artist.<\/p>\n<p>While no one should have to suffer what Phil Elverum has been through, there is a lesson for all songwriters in the lyrics from <i>A Crow Looked At Me<\/i>: As songwriters we should analyze our own intentions and discover what\u2019s true in our own voice.<\/p>\n\n\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/songwriting?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&amp;pid=&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-link-from-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\">STUDY SONGWRITING WITH BERKLEE ONLINE<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is there anything more relatable for a songwriter than another songwriter writing about songwriting? Phil Elverum accomplishes this to devastating effect on the latest Mount Eerie album.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":23,"featured_media":10342,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,9564,9566],"tags":[54,152,241,275,577,818,962,1031,1114,1318,1602],"class_list":["post-10341","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-articles","category-features-articles","category-songwriting-articles","tag-a-crow-looked-at-me","tag-beatles","tag-bright-eyes","tag-carly-simon","tag-genevieve-castree","tag-leonard-cohen","tag-mount-eerie","tag-nick-cave","tag-phil-elverum","tag-songwriting","tag-wilco"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.8 (Yoast SEO v25.8) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Death is Real: Mount Eerie and the Art of Expressing &#8216;Emptiness&#8217; 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