{"id":18192,"date":"2022-05-29T13:19:10","date_gmt":"2022-05-29T18:19:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/?p=18192"},"modified":"2026-01-16T15:57:39","modified_gmt":"2026-01-16T20:57:39","slug":"cirque-du-soleil-crystal-music-director-conrad-askland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/cirque-du-soleil-crystal-music-director-conrad-askland\/","title":{"rendered":"Cirque du Soleil \u2018Crystal\u2019 Music Director Conrad Askland Q&#038;A"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-inside-the-creative-world-of-cirque-du-soleil-s-crystal-music-technology-and-empathy\">Inside the Creative World of Cirque du Soleil\u2019s <em>Crystal<\/em>: Music, Technology, and Empathy<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland first became aware of Cirque du Soleil more than 25 years ago, when he saw a CD in a store with strange cover art.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI fell in love with that album,\u201d he says of the <em>Allegria <\/em>soundtrack. \u201cIt\u2019s the only CD I played in my car for over a year. I went through three copies of the same soundtrack.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since then, Conrad graduated from Berklee Online\u2019s undergraduate program and became the music director for Cirque du Soleil\u2019s <em>Crystal<\/em>\u2014an innovative and first-time acrobatic musical performance on ice.<em> <\/em>This conversation illuminates Conrad\u2019s ability to integrate both live instrumentation with the art and science of music technology through Ableton Live for <em>Crystal<\/em>\u2014as well as other Cirque shows.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Based in Seattle, Conrad is also known for the creation of <em>Pray the Gay Away<\/em>, a musical he reflects on as a controversial yet necessary body of art for any local community to engage with. He expresses a burning curiosity to explore how to best impact social change through art and music with the goal to lead with empathy. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1200\" src=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/Cirque-du-Soleil-Crystal.jpg\" alt=\"Cirque du Soleil Crystal Performers Skate and Dance on Ice in This Photo by Matt Beard.\" class=\"wp-image-18170\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"> Cirque du Soleil &#8216;Crystal&#8217; is <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cirquedusoleil.com\/crystal\" target=\"_blank\">Currently on Tour<\/a>, with Performances at Agganis Arena in Boston through June 12. Photo by Matt Beard. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-you-ve-worked-on-a-number-of-cirque-du-soleil-shows-when-did-you-first-become-aware-of-cirque-du-soleil\"><strong>You\u2019ve worked on a number of Cirque du Soleil shows. When did you first become aware of Cirque du Soleil?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: I first became aware of Cirque du Soleil around 1995. I was browsing a CD store, a compact disc store, and I saw this album cover. It said <em>Allegria<\/em> and had a strange face and on the back [with] musicians and Renaissance masks. I thought, \u201cWhat is this?\u201d I\u2019d never heard of Cirque du Soleil and I thought that the music was amazing. \u2026 Around 2001, I saw <em>Myst\u00e8re<\/em>. That was the first Cirque show that I saw live. I remember I went there with my mother and sister; my mother said, \u201cWhat did you think?\u201d I said to her, \u201cThat\u2019s art. What those people are doing, that is true art.\u201d I was so blown away. \u2026 <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-what-instruments-do-you-play-as-a-band-leader\"><strong>What instruments do you play as a band leader?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: In my current role, I play keyboards and accordion, and then I also do all the Ableton Live editing. When you say \u201ckeyboards,\u201d depending on the show you\u2019re doing, that can be any number of different styles of piano. It could be a harpsichord. It could be pipe organ, and it could be synth sounds, orchestral sounds. In <em>Crystal<\/em>, it\u2019s straight piano. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"This is THE Cirque Show that you MUST watch LIVE! | CRYSTAL Official Trailer | Cirque du Soleil\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Ig2gKhoGbDk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-what-was-the-first-cirque-show-that-you-worked-on\">What was the first Cirque show that you worked on? <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: The first show where I worked for them as a band leader was <em>Zaia<\/em> in 2008, a resident show in Macau, China\u2014we lived in China for four years. After that, I did the world tour of <em>Varekai<\/em>. It was an arena tour.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-how-did-berklee-online-prepare-you-for-this-role-as-band-leader\">How did Berklee Online prepare you for this role as band leader?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: I did it backwards. I did college right out of high school and then never finished my degree. I studied at several universities. That has always been a regret of mine\u2014that I didn&#8217;t finish my degree. I went into a career in music. As an older, adult learner, I started taking classes with Berklee. After that, I went to finish my <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/certificates\/ableton-live-professional?pid=8023&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-article-promotion\" target=\"_blank\">professional certification in Ableton Live<\/a>. That absolutely helped me with the shows because as band leader, part of your job is doing all the editing in Ableton Live. One of the biggest things that I learned from Cirque and from Berklee was ethics. In the bachelor\u2019s degree, I did <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/music-degrees\/undergraduate\/interdisciplinary-music-studies-create-your-own-major?pid=8023&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-article-promotion\" target=\"_blank\">interdisciplinary studies<\/a> because I wanted to study music technology, music, composition, and music business. The interdisciplinary degree allowed me to customize in each of those areas. A lot of the courses I took reinforced business ethics. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-you-mentioned-your-experience-with-ableton-live-and-composing-with-ice-skating-and-with-the-element-of-live-music-are-you-constantly-watching-the-performers-to-make-sure-your-sounds-are-synced-up-with-their-movements-is-there-a-process-of-give-and-take-with-the-action-happening-in-the-pit-and-then-the-action-happening-on-the-ice-is-there-any-room-for-improv-or-do-you-try-to-have-the-band-function-as-a-prerecorded-track-would\">You mentioned your experience with Ableton Live and composing. With ice skating and with the element of live music, are you constantly watching the performers to make sure your sounds are synced up with their movements? Is there a process of give and take with the action happening in the pit and then the action happening on the ice? Is there any room for improv? Or do you try to have the band function as a prerecorded track would?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: It\u2019s a little bit of all of that. Every show is set up slightly differently. For instance, in <em>Varekai<\/em>, it was a nine-piece band with singers. There were a lot of calls\u2014hundreds in that show. <em>Crystal<\/em> is more of a technological show, as far as syncing the LX effects with lighting and projections. Our Ableton Live set at <em>Crystal<\/em> sends a lot of the time code to lighting, to trigger their programming changes. In <em>Crystal<\/em>, there are parts where sections play as a soundtrack and the actors know in their act, to time what they do, to the music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s times where I trigger [sound] to something that happens in a certain act, a certain jump or a certain movement. Part of being a Cirque musician is understanding the parts that always have to be played the same because the artists depend on that for the complexity of a lot of the tricks they&#8217;re doing\u2014then knowing the parts where you can improvise and be a little bit more free. In different parts of the show, there\u2019s different approaches. It\u2019s everything in the show, [it] happens as a soundtrack and [as] improvisations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-i-was-personally-impacted-by-one-of-the-songs-i-was-listening-to-before-speaking-with-you-from-pray-the-gay-away\"><strong>I was personally impacted by one of the songs I was listening to before speaking with you from <em>Pray the Gay Away<\/em>. <\/strong><br><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: Is that \u201cLove Never Fails\u201d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"&quot;Love Never Fails&quot; (Reprise) from the musical Pray the Gay Away\u00ae - 1 Corinthians 13 Love\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/YPBBUjkUBFo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-love-never-fails-yes-anyway-nbsp-i-want-to-focus-on-pray-the-gay-away-a-bit-more\">\u201cLove Never Fails,\u201d yes! \u2026 Anyway,&nbsp; I want to focus on <em>Pray The Gay Away<\/em> a bit more.<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: I would love for you to include more about this! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-what-would-you-like-to-share\"><strong>What would you like to share?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: <em>Pray the Gay Away <\/em>came about because I was working as a music director on keyboards for <em>Rock of Ages<\/em>, with Norwegian Cruise Line. Before one of the shows, we\u2019re in the dressing room and one of the artists mentioned that their parents put them through gay conversion therapy. When they were younger, they attempted suicide. After the show, I pulled them aside. They told me about it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I ordered a bunch of books, but I didn\u2019t order the books that were against gay conversion therapy. Instead I ordered books by people who supported it, because I wanted to wrap my head around why people could support this practice. I was brought to tears, especially to find out that the reason a lot of it is still going in the United States is because of pressure from faith organizations, from churches. I thought, \u201cWow, if the people in those faith communities could see this practice [for what it really is], would they still support it?\u201d That was the original thing that hit me. That\u2019s the reason I wrote it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After <em>Rock of Ages<\/em>, I said to my family, \u201cI have this idea. I want to take two years off and write a musical about gay conversion therapy and put it onstage.\u201d My family said, \u201cWe support you. Do it.\u201d It went onstage, November, 2019. I developed the show with the support of PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays). We had universal support, not only from the local LGBTQIA+ community, but also from local faith organizations. With the name <em>Pray the Gay Away<\/em>, people were wondering, \u201cWhat is this? Is it pro-conversion therapy, anti?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-what-was-some-feedback-that-you-received-about-pray-the-gay-away-that-stuck-with-you\">What was some feedback that you received about <em>Pray the Gay Away<\/em> that stuck with you?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: When I was originally pitching the show, there was someone who said, \u201cI don\u2019t want to get in the way of you doing this, Conrad, but I can\u2019t support it.\u201d When they actually saw the show, they came up to me with tears in their eyes and gave me a hug for two full minutes\u2014no words\u2014and just walked away. That meant a lot. The other thing I remember; there was a man who came up to me after the show, an hour north of Seattle. He said, \u201cWe live in Seattle, my husband and I. We never thought we could retire in this area, because we wouldn\u2019t be welcomed. After seeing this show, we\u2019re going to consider retiring in this town.\u201d That brought tears to my eyes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-you-have-this-tendency-to-bridge-unlikely-communities-and-spark-organic-conversations-about-social-justice-and-part-of-your-artist-statement-is-i-want-to-be-part-of-positive-social-change-and-light-what-does-this-look-like-for-you-right-now\">You have this tendency to bridge unlikely communities and spark organic conversations about social justice, and part of your <a href=\"https:\/\/conradaskland.com\/blog\/artist-statement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\">artist statement<\/a> is: \u201cI want to be part of positive social change and light.\u201d What does this look like for you right now? <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: That is part of the continuing trajectory for me\u2014trying to be a good global citizen, which started with Cirque, and Berklee, and continued to be elevated with my master\u2019s [degree] studies [at Colorado State University]. To me, part of that means, particularly in the United States, this political divide that we have; I am very clear on which side I stand. I want to do projects that entertain, but I also want to do projects that support the LGBTQ community, the transgender community, and Black Lives Matter\u2014which I fully support. In the current landscape, sometimes that means, as an older white male, stepping aside to make place for someone else, who didn\u2019t previously have that space. I\u2019m totally, and have been, willing to do that. I realize that\u2019s also part of my place; to know when to make space for someone else.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-thank-you-for-sharing-that-conrad-what-s-something-unexpected-that-came-from-your-career-pathway\">Thank you for sharing that, Conrad. What\u2019s something unexpected that came from your career pathway?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: The biggest thing that\u2019s made my career and life more enjoyable is learning empathy, especially in my early 20s. Empathy\u2014and being a team player\u2014goes so much further. Everyone wants to do their best work. If you\u2019re working in the arts, almost everyone you\u2019re working with wants to do their best. Everyone is strong at different things. Instead of focusing on weaknesses\u2014especially when you\u2019re a leader of a team\u2014focus on strengths. Try to reinforce and bring those out. Being part of the team, and being supportive and encouraging is so important.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading long-title\" id=\"h-any-career-advice-or-inspiration-beyond-that-do-you-have-any-other-words-you-want-to-share-or-career-inspiration-for-berklee-online-students\">Any career advice or inspiration beyond that? Do you have any other words you want to share or career inspiration for Berklee Online students? <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conrad Askland: Yeah. I read advice in my early 20s from Carol Burnett: \u201cFill up your schedule with work to do, whether it\u2019s paid or not. Then gradually replace that with the work you want to do [with] paid work.\u201d My other advice is, it\u2019s easy to get focused on the single thing that you want to do, and then you\u2019re like a horse with blinders on. You don\u2019t see opportunities that are right in front of you, right in your community. I try to be aware of opportunities that are right next to me, whether or not they may seem big or cool to other people. Things that call to me. 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