{"id":27503,"date":"2025-10-09T14:18:39","date_gmt":"2025-10-09T19:18:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/?p=27503"},"modified":"2026-02-05T14:22:24","modified_gmt":"2026-02-05T19:22:24","slug":"enrique-gonzalez-muller-on-tina-turner-dave-matthews-and-studio-lessons-that-stick","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/enrique-gonzalez-muller-on-tina-turner-dave-matthews-and-studio-lessons-that-stick\/","title":{"rendered":"Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller on Tina Turner, Dave Matthews, and Studio Lessons That Stick"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-how-candid-sessions-with-music-legends-shaped-enrique-gonzalez-muller-s-creative-approach-and-teaching-philosophy\">How Candid Sessions with Music Legends Shaped Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller\u2019s Creative Approach and Teaching Philosophy<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller has collected career-defining epiphanies in studios around the world\u2014whether it\u2019s Tina Turner stopping a session to remind everyone why they make music, Dave Matthews rewriting a lyric sheet an hour before stepping to the mic, or MC Hammer dancing behind a control-room couch. He has also worked with Nine Inch Nails, Joan Baez, and a long list of artists in the US, Europe, and his home country of Venezuela, where his productions have earned multiple Latin Grammy Awards. As a Berklee professor and the program director for Berklee Online\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/music-degrees\/graduate\/music-production?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&amp;pid=&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-link-from-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Music Production Graduate program<\/a>, he brings those principles\u2014and that curiosity\u2014to every class. Here, he talks about early inspirations, full-circle hometown collaborations, and the moments in the studio that helped define how he works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>What was the first song you remember being moved by?<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> The year was 1986. I\u2019m from Venezuela originally, and I remember being brought to the US to go to a summer camp, and all the cool kids were listening to this one cassette they would always pop in the boombox. And I remember thinking, \u201cThe sounds that are coming out of that boombox cannot be made by humans! What is this wizardry?\u201d Obviously, that was the first cassette I ever bought, <em>Licensed to Ill<\/em>, by Beastie Boys. And yeah, the rest is history. \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>What was the first music you heard that made you realize you wanted to go into music production?<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> The Beastie Boys did get me in trouble but also Tears for Fears got me in trouble. I remember opening my child eyes and looking at bands playing instruments and thinking, \u201cI can understand that,\u201d but I also remember hearing Tears for Fears and thinking, \u201cI see two dudes singing, but I\u2019m also hearing horns, and way too many drum\/percussion things, and I don\u2019t see the people playing them. So for me, that really sparked my imagination, realizing \u201cThere are no rules! We can put anything in these sonic concoctions and move people\u2019s hearts!\u201d So I think that was the start.\n<BR><BR>\nAnd the second thing was the audition tape I had to send in to apply for Berklee College of Music. The assignment didn\u2019t have many details or restrictions so I didn\u2019t assume I had to send an impressive shredder guitar solo to prove that I\u2019m a worthy guitarist, it just said: \u201csend us a tape of your stuff.\u201d I had a four-track cassette recorder, and I remember making this whole epic story with narration and singing, kind of like a little rock opera that I did with my guitar and my little multitrack. Even though I saw myself as a guitar player first, when I got to Berklee, Berklee did its thing, which is: you come here and you see all of the possibilities that Berklee has to offer. And this environment gave me a space to realize my potential, fully, which welcomed bringing together all of those creative ideas that didn\u2019t conform to just playing one instrument or being one thing, or becoming a two-dimensional pigeonholed pro, in that sense. So, yeah, that\u2019s what started it all.\n\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<!-- Enrique teaches -->\n<div style=\"background:#FDE9EC; border:1px solid #F7CDD3; border-left:6px solid #EE243C; border-radius:12px; padding:1.25rem 1.25rem 1rem; box-shadow:0 2px 6px rgba(0,0,0,0.06); max-width:820px; margin:1.5rem auto; font-size:16px; line-height:1.6; color:#1f1f1f;\">\n\n  <p style=\"margin:0 0 1rem 0;\">\n    With Berklee Online, \n    <a href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/instructors\/enrique-gonzalez-muller?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&#038;pid=&#038;utm_source=takenote&#038;tum_medium=blog&#038;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-article-link\"\n       target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"\n       style=\"text-decoration:none; border-bottom:1px dotted #EE243C; color:#111;\">\n      <strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller<\/strong>\n    <\/a> \n    is the author and instructor of:\n  <\/p>\n\n  <ul style=\"margin:0 0 0 1rem; padding:0; list-style:disc; list-style-position: inside;\">\n    <li style=\"margin-bottom:0.5rem;\">\n      <a href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/courses\/creative-recording-and-editing-techniques-in-music-production?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&#038;pid=&#038;utm_source=takenote&#038;tum_medium=blog&#038;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-article-link\"\n         target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"\n         style=\"text-decoration:none; border-bottom:1px dotted #EE243C; color:#111;\">\n        <em><strong>Creative Recording and Editing Techniques in Music Production<\/strong><\/em>\n      <\/a>\n    <\/li>\n\n    <li>\n      <a href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/courses\/music-production-maximizing-emotion-through-performance-arrangement-and-sound?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&#038;pid=&#038;utm_source=takenote&#038;tum_medium=blog&#038;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-article-link\"\n         target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"\n         style=\"text-decoration:none; border-bottom:1px dotted #EE243C; color:#111;\">\n        <em><strong>Music Production: Maximizing Emotion Through Performance, Arrangement, and Sound<\/strong><\/em>\n      <\/a>\n    <\/li>\n  <\/ul>\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<BR>\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>Before Berklee, when did you know that music had a hold on you and that was your path, and there was no other path forward?<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> One year before graduating from high school, some professional came into my classroom and said, \u201cNext week we\u2019re giving you all a test to see what you\u2019re good at.\u201d And I remember doing my test, and I was so daunted and haunted by the thought of this person who was going to tell me what I was going to be for the rest of my life. And I take this test. And literally, it gave me two choices. \n<BR><BR>\nChoice No. 1: Gym coach. <BR>\nChoice No. 2: Priest. \n<BR><BR>\nThose were the two choices! And I thought, \u201cI\u2019ve gotta answer this test myself!\u201d And then I thought, \u201cWell, what\u2019s the one thing that I would do 26 hours a day, eight days a week?\u201d It\u2019s got to be music, because I just can\u2019t think of anything else that I would want to do. That is still the case. So we\u2019re doing alright. \n \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>I would venture to say that the test wasn\u2019t <em>totally<\/em> wrong, because isn\u2019t the music producer kind of like being a priest and the gym coach?<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> It\u2019s all making sense now! So I am a coach who guides people onto sonic betterness. I gotta go hit up that pro that gave me that test and apologize. So thank you.  \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>Tell me about when you realized that you\u2019d rather pursue music production than guitar.\n<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> My 18-year-old brain told me that I was going to be a guitar player, and that\u2019s what I was going to be. My heroes are <a href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/courses\/steve-vai-guitar-techniques?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&#038;pid=&#038;utm_source=takenote&#038;tum_medium=blog&#038;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-article-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Steve Vai<\/a>, Joe Satriani, and Jennifer Batten, and that\u2019s what I\u2019m going to do. And then I came to Berklee and I started practicing and practicing and practicing. But then I also got to hear different people doing arranging, doing production, doing electronic production design, doing all of these different things. And I felt that guitar was just too limiting and constricting for me, so that when it came time to choose a major, <a href=\"https:\/\/college.berklee.edu\/mpe\/bachelor-of-music-in-music-production-and-engineering?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&amp;pid=&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-link-from-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Music Production and Engineering<\/a> just fit like a glove. \n<BR><BR>\nBut then two semesters in, it actually felt constricting because it was microphones, and it was trying to make this verse go into the chorus and have that pop, sonically. And I felt, \u201cBut I need things to be a little bit weirder!\u201d And then I added a second major, which was <a href=\"https:\/\/college.berklee.edu\/electronic-production-design?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&amp;pid=&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-link-from-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">EPD<\/a>, which back in the day was called Music Synthesis. And then I started studying photography at <a href=\"https:\/\/massart.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Massachusetts College of Arts<\/a>! And then I started studying at the <a href=\"https:\/\/smfa.tufts.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">School of the Museum of Fine Arts<\/a>! So for me, being at Berklee with the possibilities of really trying this vast buffet of different options was awesome for me!\n<BR><BR>\nThe thing, though, is that through this expansion of my brain, I also saw myself reconnect with that kind of nine-year-old music-lover that got me into trouble, and I remember practicing and doing all of these things that I had to do for the test, which I did find very valuable. But I also played in a ska band, because you know, that\u2019s the hippest genre ever!\n<BR><BR>\nAnd I love playing in a ska band, and being silly and dancing, and during my last semester at Berklee, I reconnected with my hometown heroes, a ska band that I listened to when I was nine, and I befriended them. And \u201cI play this ska band, I\u2019m living here, yada yada.\u201d And then the next thing you know, before I graduate, they invite me to come to the studio and produce a track for them!\n<BR><BR>\nAnd that band is called Desorden P\u00fablico. They\u2019re still going strong, which is awesome. And that was the very first pro thing I did under Sony back in the day. And I still am friends with the guys. But that was my first gig that somehow made use of all of my brain expansion, but also brought it right back to me being a nine-year-old kid, and making that kid really, really happy!\n \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"100%\" height=\"300\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" allow=\"autoplay\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/soundcloud%253Atracks%253A99307918&#038;color=%23ff5500&#038;auto_play=false&#038;hide_related=false&#038;show_comments=true&#038;show_user=true&#038;show_reposts=false&#038;show_teaser=true&#038;visual=true\"><\/iframe><div style=\"font-size: 10px; color: #cccccc;line-break: anywhere;word-break: normal;overflow: hidden;white-space: nowrap;text-overflow: ellipsis; font-family: Interstate,Lucida Grande,Lucida Sans Unicode,Lucida Sans,Garuda,Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;font-weight: 100;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/enrique-gonzalez-muller\" title=\"Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cccccc; text-decoration: none;\">Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/enrique-gonzalez-muller\/gorilon-desorden-publico\" title=\"Gorilon - Desorden Publico (Produced, engineered and mixed by EGM)\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cccccc; text-decoration: none;\">Gorilon &#8211; Desorden Publico (Produced, engineered and mixed by EGM)<\/a><\/div><BR>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>You\u2019ve also worked a lot with another hometown band, Los Amigos Invisibles. What has that collaboration been like for you?<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> So imagine being 16 and you fall in love with that hometown band. For me, that band was Los Amigos Invisibles, which is a funk\/dance band from Venezuela that I\u2019ve now come to call my friends. We\u2019ve worked together many times and won a bunch of Latin Grammys, and so on. And for me, one of the things that I cherish from them is that sometimes you work with people who say, \u201cHey, this is what I do, help me make <em>me<\/em> better.\u201d But sometimes you work with artists who go, \u201cThis is me. This is an idea. Where can you take this? Let\u2019s creatively collaborate and show me stuff that I can\u2019t see myself!\u201d That\u2019s Los Amigos Invisibles! At least when they work with me. And one of the things that I have as a little feather in my cap is that the last time I went to Mexico City, I\u2019m having dinner with Catire, the bass player, and he grabs a spoon, and he goes, \u201cWhen we give you songs, it\u2019s like, we give you this, a spoon. And what you give us back, it\u2019s like, you give us back a microwave. Thank you dude, so awesome to work with you.\u201d It\u2019s so awesome for me to work with them as well.\n \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Los Amigos Invisibles - Aqu\u00ed nadie est\u00e1 sano Ft Los Aut\u00e9nticos Decadentes (Video Oficial)\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5brpDu_8Jv4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<BR>\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>You\u2019ve worked with other heroes of yours throughout your career. I know you did some work with Jason Newsted of Metallica.\n<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> My first internship opportunity was under the band Metallica, which when I was 13, they were the be-all end-all for me. So I\u2019m doing an internship with these guys, right? But I have something to prove too, because I just graduated and I was asked to go grab lunch, and I felt like, \u201cThis might be beneath me because I just graduated from Berklee College of Music, and I know all of this stuff! Why am I supposed to get lunch?\u201d And then it dawned on me that it was just a little small task to see if I could hook up a lunch order. So I go grab the lunch order, and when I come back and I\u2019m unpacking all the stuff, right next to me is Jason Newsted, bass player for Metallica. And he just looks at me and goes, \u201cDude, let me help you. What do you got? Oh yeah, Lars [Ulrich, drummer] is going to want it this way.\u201d And he just helped me unpack the whole lunch. The rock star is helping the anonymous intern kid to hook up the lunch order. Fast-forward a few months later: We started talking a little bit about music because we connected over unpacking lunch. Next thing you know, I\u2019m assisting his project. Then he leaves Metallica. He starts producing, then I start engineering for the guy. And Jason is a guy that I not only call a dear friend, but such an inspiration; an inspiration of humility, an inspiration of doing it for the right reasons, and that is the love of music. And drive! What focus! So I keep a very, very warm place for Jason Newsted, for really giving me one of those first lessons: You\u2019ve got to be pro and you\u2019ve got to be humble, and you\u2019ve got to remember why we got into this mess. \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>How about the project you did with Nine Inch Nails and Kronos Quartet?\n<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> So I\u2019m in Chicago, doing an album for an indie British band that was awesome. And we had like 12 bucks to do this record, and we were working in the studio\u2014again 26 hours a day\u2014and I got a phone call and it was David Harrington from Kronos Quartet, who I had worked with before.\n <BR><BR>\nAnd he says, \u201cEnrique, what are you doing in two days?\u201d \n <BR><BR>\nAnd I say, \u201cTell me more!\u201d \n <BR><BR>\nAnd he says, \u201cWe just got a call from Trent Reznor, who wants to do a project. And we\u2019d love it if it\u2019s the three of us\u2014meaning Kronos Quartet, Nine Inch Nails, and you\u2014as artists. Would you be down to producing this and doing this record with us?\u201d\n <BR><BR>\nAnd I remember I was so underwater with this indie band that I was doing in Chicago, that I didn\u2019t quite know if I had the stamina and the mental clarity to do it. And I remember telling David, \u201cDavid, of course, I\u2019d love to do it, but I don\u2019t know if it&#8217;s going to be too much of a stretch for me. And I don\u2019t want to put you guys in a bad spot. You know, if I can\u2019t come through. \n <BR><BR>\nAnd I\u2019m waiting for him to respond. \n <BR><BR>\nPause, pause, pause. \n <BR><BR>\nAnd he says, \u201cEnrique, if something is <em>not<\/em> a big stretch and you\u2019re not going to commit fully to it, it\u2019s not worth doing.\u201d \n <BR><BR>\nAnd I just felt like, \u201cAlright, it\u2019s on!\u201d\n <BR><BR>\nAnd \u201cI\u2019ll see you in two days in LA.\u201d\n <BR><BR>\nAnd we\u2019re going to do this record. And it was a great collaboration between Nine Inch Nails, Kronos Quartet, and me for a track that we did called \u201cAnother Version of the Truth,\u201d which I\u2019m still very proud of to this day. \n\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Another Version of the Truth (kronos and enrique gonzalez muller)\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/NbBE6vGX5-E?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<BR>\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>You shared a story in a Berklee Online promo video about Tina Turner cutting through the stress in the studio, and it became a real epiphany for you. Can you share that story again?<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> So sometimes when I get a little stressed by the gig, the gig of either making music or teaching, or the gig of life, I come back to this project that I did with Tina Turner. So imagine I&#8217;m in the Bay Area, where I used to live, in San Francisco. So I\u2019m cutting a record with an Italian pop star\u2014her name is Elisa, who\u2019s a dear friend, and we\u2019re making this album and the record company calls and says, \u201cWe just got you a duet opportunity with Tina Turner, but you\u2019ve got to come to Switzerland\u2014because that\u2019s where she lives\u2014two days from now and cut this record!\u201d [Obviously we say,] \u201cOf course!\u201d \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-captioned data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/DR2RlZlDkTp\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\" style=\" background:#FFF; border:0; border-radius:3px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width:540px; min-width:326px; padding:0; width:99.375%; width:-webkit-calc(100% - 2px); width:calc(100% - 2px);\"><div style=\"padding:16px;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/DR2RlZlDkTp\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" background:#FFFFFF; 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font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/DR2RlZlDkTp\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none;\" target=\"_blank\">A post shared by Berklee Online (@berkleeonline)<\/a><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n<script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script>\n\n<BR>\nSo we show up and it\u2019s super stressful because the record label from Italy is now in Switzerland. It\u2019s ALL the entourage. Then Tina Turner comes in and the point of the story is, by the time we got into the studio to cut this wonderful piece of music, everybody was so stressed. And Tina Turner does her first take, which is wonderful. And then she says, \u201cGuys, stop.\u201d And she comes right into the room, looks at all of us and goes, \u201cGuys, we just need to relax. Remember that we\u2019re here to make music and we\u2019re not getting out of here until this thing rocks! \u2026 We have to remember that we\u2019re here to try to move the hearts of others. It just needs to rock, and we\u2019re not getting out of here until this thing rocks.\u201d<BR>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Elisa - &quot;Teach me again&quot; feat. Tina Turner (official video - 2006)\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/YSgGcy16H0w?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<BR>\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>Have you experienced any similar epiphanies from working with any other artists?<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> One memory that I cherish a lot is my work that I\u2019ve done with Joan Baez. I started working with Joan some years ago. We were in the studio, cutting a bunch of tracks for this collaboration she was doing with a French artist. And then we had to go play some live shows. I\u2019m more of a studio person, but I remember going into this new realm for me, and it was so much work\u2014much respect to people that do live sound, right?\u2014but we\u2019re there and it\u2019s a ton of work, and we do the show and the show is epically long, and Joan Baez is Joan Baez, right? She\u2019s a storyteller. So she\u2019s giving you the whole history of Joan Baez in a two- or three-hour concert. And then we\u2019re done. And everybody\u2019s super tired. The fans are happy, everybody goes home happy. And I remember starting to pack up, and Joan comes up and says, \u201cCould you put some music on?\u201d And I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWe just spent hours and hours and hours, playing music, doing music, answering questions about music, and what Joan wants to do is listen to more music!\u201d And then I put a little bit of music on, and she started dancing by herself, onstage! I remember her just closing her eyes and just having a moment. She took her shoes off, and had the whole stage to herself. And it shifted so much, my view of \u201cWhy are we here? Oh, it\u2019s this connection! What she wants to do now is connect again with the reason why we do this, which is the joys of music.\u201d It\u2019s not a gig. It\u2019s not even this responsibility that we have to go and make the fans happy! It\u2019s \u201cWe\u2019re doing it because we love it! And it never stops!\u201d So to infuse every moment of the day with that core reason of why we got into it is something that I really hold dear. It\u2019s something that I try to bring to all the endeavors that I do, from producing music to teaching.  \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>I like that these stories are all about that commitment to music. Any other examples of that from your work in the studio?\n<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> Another memory I cherish about committing fully to what you\u2019re doing is this project that I did with the Dave Matthews Band. This was an album called Busted Stuff, which was kind of a weird album for them because they had done the whole album, but they didn\u2019t really like how it came out, and it leaked! The whole album! So they disavowed it, and then they did it again, but reworked it altogether and redid the lyrics. So we were cutting vocals, and Dave goes, \u201cGive me a giant piece of paper, give me a Sharpie, and leave me alone for an hour.\u201d And Dave literally wrote the entire lyrics for the song he was about to sing, an hour before he sang them. And I\u2019m thinking, \u201cHow is this guy going to pull this off?\u201d \n \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Bartender\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/rSxRdSOIw2g?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<BR>\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n\nWe set up the microphone and begin recording, take one, and imagine Dave is singing right on the other side of the glass. It\u2019s awkward to just go look at Dave Matthews\u2014or anybody singing, for that matter. Right? So I\u2019m just trying to be discreet, looking away. But the sounds that are coming out of the speakers are incredible! The gut-wrenching emotional commitment to these lyrics! And I couldn\u2019t believe that this guy had written these words one hour prior. So of course I had to look! And I turn, and Dave is grabbing the sleeve of his sweater and pulling it and tearing it apart in the most committed emotional performance I have ever seen. And when we were done with the track, it was like he \u201ccame to,\u201d and he said, \u201cWell, how was that?\u201d \u201cPretty good.\u201d \u201cWell, let&#8217;s do another one!\u201d So we go open up another take, but he goes, \u201cOh, man, this sweater is mangled,\u201d and he takes off the sweater. So now we go for take two (even though we just did a flawless take one!). So he goes for take two. And again I\u2019m not looking. And it\u2019s as awesome! Different, but as awesome! I have to look. So I go look. And now he\u2019s going for the headphone cable, which he\u2019s wrapping around his hands. I mean, if every take is going to be the mangling of a piece of gear, we\u2019ll do it, because this is magic we\u2019re capturing here. It all also makes me think of being in the moment and committing fully to what you\u2019re doing. Even on take one! <BR><BR>\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>I like how that story captures how close you are to the artists in the studio. You must have dozens of those \u2018in the room\u2019 stories\u2014can you share another one?<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> So not to get too macabre on you, but if I ever could choose my epitaph, what they\u2019re going to put in my tombstone, it would be this quote I got from MC Hammer. So I get a call from the studio: \u201cYou need to be here now!\u201d \u201cWhy? It\u2019s my day off!\u201d \u201cMC Hammer is coming in the door. He needs you!\u201d So I show up to the studio, and then I worked for MC Hammer for 48 hours straight! By the end of it I\u2019m a little loopy because I\u2019ve been mixing MC Hammer music for 48 hours, and I\u2019m thinking I\u2019m done with the last mix and I go, \u201cHammer, come in, check out the track.\u201d And I hit play, and immediately he goes, \u201cWhere\u2019s the volume?\u201d  \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"100%\" height=\"300\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" allow=\"autoplay\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/soundcloud%253Atracks%253A99317023&#038;color=%23ff5500&#038;auto_play=false&#038;hide_related=false&#038;show_comments=true&#038;show_user=true&#038;show_reposts=false&#038;show_teaser=true&#038;visual=true\"><\/iframe><div style=\"font-size: 10px; color: #cccccc;line-break: anywhere;word-break: normal;overflow: hidden;white-space: nowrap;text-overflow: ellipsis; font-family: Interstate,Lucida Grande,Lucida Sans Unicode,Lucida Sans,Garuda,Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;font-weight: 100;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/enrique-gonzalez-muller\" title=\"Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cccccc; text-decoration: none;\">Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/enrique-gonzalez-muller\/california-mc-hammer-mixed-by\" title=\"California - MC Hammer (Mixed by EGM)\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cccccc; text-decoration: none;\">California &#8211; MC Hammer (Mixed by EGM)<\/a><\/div>\n<BR><BR>\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\nAnd I point to the big knob for the master for the main speakers in the studio, and he listens to a little bit, maybe 30 seconds in, and cranks it to \u201cstun.\u201d And I was hiding behind a couch because it was so loud. And I look over and MC Hammer is dancing, to my mix, to his track. And MC Hammer is an amazing dancer! And he\u2019s busting out all of the moves. And I\u2019m just looking from behind the couch. And when we\u2019re done, I resurface, and there\u2019s this awkward pause and I go, \u201cHammer, excuse me, is the mix okay?\u201d And he whips back at me and he goes, \u201cThere\u2019s nothing to do to that track but listen to it.\u201d And then he leaves. That\u2019s what I want on my epitaph, that MC Hammer quote that I got. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>We\u2019ve focused on lessons you\u2019ve learned with the artists you\u2019ve recorded and worked with, but are there any lessons you\u2019ve learned from the students you\u2019ve worked with?<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> A highlight student that comes to mind is <a href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/berklee-online-certificate-was-a-stepping-stone-for-mpe-student-josh-sebek\/?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&amp;pid=&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-link-from-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Josh Sebek<\/a>. So I met Josh back in the day when he was studying a few courses here and there through Berklee Online. We did <em><a href=\"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/courses\/critical-listening-1?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&#038;pid=&#038;utm_source=takenote&#038;utm_medium=blog&#038;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-link-from-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Critical Listening<\/a><\/em>. It feels like eons ago. And then I get an email from Josh that says, \u201cI\u2019m applying to come to Berklee College of Music, brick and mortar. Would you write me a letter of recommendation?\u201d So then Josh gets into <a href=\"https:\/\/college.berklee.edu\/mpe\/bachelor-of-music-in-music-production-and-engineering?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&amp;pid=&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-link-from-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Music Production and Engineering<\/a>, and he becomes my student in <a href=\"https:\/\/college.berklee.edu\/mpe\/bachelor-of-music-in-music-production-and-engineering?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&amp;pid=&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-link-from-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Music Production and Engineering<\/a>. And Josh is a person who, like all of us, some things come really easy to him, and some things he struggles with, like we all do. And I was always so moved by his focus, his humility, and his sense of humor around the things that were tough for him and how he overcame every single test that was put out there, and always try to just make art through these tests. To just share with you how much I enjoyed Josh as a human being and as a student, and as a pro: Josh Sebek is now my main go-to mastering engineer.  \n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 1.5em;\">\n    <h2 class=\"long-title\" style=\"margin-bottom: 0.1em;\"><strong>Let\u2019s talk a little bit more about teaching. What\u2019s your teaching philosophy?\n<\/strong><\/h2>\n    <p style=\"margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;\"><strong>Enrique Gonzalez M\u00fcller:<\/strong> If I was to try to distill teaching, for me, it\u2019s not even teaching. It\u2019s sharing. So for me, the part that I have to give is that I\u2019m filled with curiosity. I love to travel. Anytime I get a menu and I see something on the menu that I don\u2019t know how to pronounce, that\u2019s the thing that I order. And I collect all these things, and I love to share them with people. And I have taken deep dives into some realms of humanity, the things that I\u2019ve been a pro at, so sure, I take the mantle of \u201cteaching\u201d music production and engineering, \u201cteaching\u201d arranging, but for me, it\u2019s just sharing cool things that I\u2019ve discovered. But I need people to share back with me. So for me, when I\u2019m in a room, I always start my sharing endeavors by talking about food, because No. 1, it\u2019s the best; and No. 2, because I have the privilege of being in a room with people from all over the world. And I\u2019m not an expert on food from Cambodia. I\u2019m not an expert on food from Minas Gerais in Brazil. So for me to have access to that wealth and that entryway of food then becomes a wider conversation. I try to make it a big, big, fluid, mutual back and forth of sharing.\n<BR><BR>\nAlso, I feel that if a class is called, let\u2019s say, <em>Vocal Production<\/em>, of course I\u2019m going to teach vocal production. But I tell students on the first day, \u201cThis is not going to be about vocal production. This is not even going to be about production. This is not even going to be about a life in the arts. This is just going to be about exploring the betterment of humanity, as lofty as that sounds.\u201d So it\u2019s through the vehicle of whatever we&#8217;re here to do. And I\u2019m not saying that I\u2019ve got all of the answers, but I do want us to come together through putting up a microphone, doing a bunch of takes, learning quick keys, Pro Tools, tuning that one note, whatever it is that we\u2019re trying to explore. And again, it goes back to the reason of why we\u2019re here. Music is all about emotion, right? 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