{"id":8754,"date":"2016-12-14T12:45:15","date_gmt":"2016-12-14T16:45:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/takenote\/?p=8754"},"modified":"2025-12-15T16:55:16","modified_gmt":"2025-12-15T21:55:16","slug":"kip-winger-talks-grammy-nomination-berklee-online-experience","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/takenote\/kip-winger-talks-grammy-nomination-berklee-online-experience\/","title":{"rendered":"Kip Winger Talks Grammy Nomination and Berklee Online Experience"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-how-kip-winger-used-berklee-online-courses-to-go-from-a-rock-guy-to-achieve-grammy-nominated-classical-success\">How Kip Winger Used Berklee Online Courses to Go from a &#8216;Rock Guy&#8217; to Achieve Grammy-Nominated Classical Success<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>At one point in our conversation Kip Winger refers to himself as \u201ca rock guy who had some hits in the \u201980s.\u201d Though this is a <i>somewhat<\/i> accurate description, Kip Winger is also a rock guy who just received a Grammy nomination \u2026 for Best Contemporary Classical Composition! If you are the type of person who only knows of Winger as the aforementioned rock guy, his classical nomination may come as a surprise, but he has wanted to make classical music since he was a teenager, and he credits Berklee Online with helping him get there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI always wanted to further my education and I was trying to find ways to do it online because I&#8217;m always on the road,\u201d Winger says, \u201cso Berklee Online was the <i>only<\/i> place that gave me what I would consider to be legitimate music courses that I could take online and really get something out of.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Though <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kipwinger.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Kip Winger (opens in a new tab)\">Kip Winger<\/a> came into his Berklee courses having already composed a successful piece for the San Francisco Ballet, he credits one of his professors at Berklee Online, Ben Newhouse, with opening new ways of thinking about music.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI did learn a lot from Ben, especially about composing for Film and TV,\u201d says Winger, who went on to earn a <a href=\"http:\/\/online.berklee.edu\/certificates\/orchestration-for-film-and-tv-advanced-professional\/?campaign_id=7010Z000001ZkQgQAK&amp;pid=&amp;utm_source=takenote&amp;utm_medium=blog&amp;utm_campaign=bol-gen-takenote-link-from-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\">certificate in Orchestration for Film and TV<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Winger is generous with crediting others for his success. The work that is nominated for a Grammy, <i>Conversations with Nijinsky<\/i>, he says he couldn\u2019t have done without the help of Martin West, musical director and principal conductor of the San Francisco Ballet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-9-16 wp-has-aspect-ratio wp-embed-aspect-21-9\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: Kip Winger: Conversations with Nijinsky\" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/album\/28s51L6Lnr0ZITNeomg3Gv?si=ScNbql6pQZKsLu2kyINFlw&amp;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI had a full MIDI mockup of the piece and I played it for Martin,\u201d says Winger, \u201cand I have to give him a lot of credit because he not only championed my cause, but he understands my music really well. He can look at it and know exactly what I was thinking, which is rare.\u201d<br><\/span><br><em>Listen to a sample below:<\/em><br><br>Winger says his process is to work out what he hears in his head on piano.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;m a bit of an underdog: I&#8217;m not the guy that can just hear it and write it down. I have to work it out at the piano, but having said that, I\u2019ve read quotes from Stravinsky where he&#8217;d said that he never got too far away from the piano.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although the music he writes today is credited to Charles Frederick Kip Winger, he still performs with the guys he made hits with in the \u201980s who made his last name synonymous with hair metal. He says that while the Internet has made the music industry a more challenging landscape, it has also yielded unexpected rewards for him and his band.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe upside to it is that a lot of young people have discovered the music of Winger,\u201d he says, \u201cand a lot of the baggage from the \u201980s\u2014like when the \u201980s bands were uncool and all that stuff\u2014has just kind of gone by the wayside because young people are discovering it and they just listen to the music for what it is.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As for what it is, this clip below is a great refresher:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Winger - Seventeen\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/GlN3oEjMpUQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Winger &#8220;Seventeen&#8221; (1988): When asked how he feels about singing about an attraction to a 17-year-old, Winger is&nbsp;quick to quip, \u201cPaul McCartney still sings, \u2018she was just 17\u2019 in \u2018I Saw Her Standing There.\u2019 I mean, of course I\u2019m no Paul McCartney, but come on, it\u2019s the same exact thing.\u201d\ufeff<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As for the contrast between classical and rock, Winger says, \u201cone feeds the other.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt&#8217;s really what comes more naturally to me,\u201d he says of orchestration. \u201cFrankly, it took me way too long to get here.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He seems to realize that it sounds like he\u2019s saying he should have been nominated for a Grammy long before this, so he corrects himself.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cNot a Grammy or anything like that\u2014that&#8217;s completely unexpected and I would&#8217;ve never even imagined that in a million years\u2014but basically what I mean is that coming from where I came from with Winger and from a rock background and not having gone to university and all that, it was all a very intimidating prospect to take on the challenge of writing orchestral music from an authentic point of view,\u201d he says. \u201cI never even imagined an orchestra would play my stuff. I just wanted to do it because it was what I was hearing in my head and it was what I was more drawn to, so even at the time Winger was at the height of its career\u2014you know, back in the heyday\u2014I&#8217;d be sitting in my bunk, in the bus, literally hearing what you&#8217;re hearing with the kind of music that I write today.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So what does Winger hope for now that he is a Grammy-nominated composer?<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWell, I&#8217;m hoping you guys will just give me an honorary doctorate,\u201d he says with a laugh. \u201cI would really like to get a degree and I don&#8217;t have a way to do it other than Berklee Online, but if I take classes at the rate I take them I&#8217;ll get a degree when I&#8217;m 100!\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kip Winger humbly refers to himself as \u201ca rock guy who had some hits in the \u201980s,\u201d which is only part of the picture.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":8760,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[9579,9570,9590],"tags":[7348,601,785,1611],"class_list":["post-8754","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bass-articles","category-composition-orchestration-arranging-articles","category-performance-articles","tag-classical-music","tag-grammy-awards","tag-kip-winger","tag-winger"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.8 (Yoast SEO v25.8) - 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